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.338 Lapua Magnum questions
I'm thinking about getting a .338 LM. Would just like to ask a few questions.
How much will it cost to reload?
How many rounds will I get out of a barrel on average?
Would prefer buying a second hand rifle as building one doesn't interest me. Or maybe a new factory.
I just want to get a little more range than my .308, would I be better off getting a .300 win mag? Not really interested in wildcat cartridges.
Cheers
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Savage1
I'm thinking about getting a .338 LM. Would just like to ask a few questions.
How much will it cost to reload?
How many rounds will I get out of a barrel on average?
Would prefer buying a second hand rifle as building one doesn't interest me. Or maybe a new factory.
I just want to get a little more range than my .308, would I be better off getting a .300 win mag? Not really interested in wildcat cartridges.
Cheers
I have one number & one word to say, then another three......
338 Edge
End of story :thumbsup:
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Kiwi Greg
I have one number & one word to say, then another three......
338 Edge
End of story :thumbsup:
Pros and cons?
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Savage1
Pros and cons?
Google is your friend :)
Very easy/simple/cheapish to build on a Rem 700.
Inherantly accurate, well all the ones I have built & seen have been/are.
Very consistant performance.
300 grains at 2800fps out of a 26", 9-9.25 lb complete rig.
Tons of horsepower to do the business up close or way out there.
Fantasic high BC bullets that work very well on game.
Very managable recoil with a great brake.
Just neck up 300 Rum brass & you are GTG.
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I would look at a 284 or 284 Shehane , also look at 7mmRM , 300WM , then last the 338LM , price out the brass , bullets , primers & powder cost , then look at barrel life .
IF I wanted a bit more thana 308 , I would take a long hard look at the 7mm & 30 cal before the 338 , as the smaller cals , will cost you less to run than say the 338LM .
Later Chris
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ChrisF
I would look at a 284 or 284 Shehane , also look at 7mmRM , 300WM , then last the 338LM , price out the brass , bullets , primers & powder cost , then look at barrel life .
IF I wanted a bit more thana 308 , I would take a long hard look at the 7mm & 30 cal before the 338 , as the smaller cals , will cost you less to run than say the 338LM .
Later Chris
Yeah I was kinda thinking it was a hell of a jump. 300 win mag is looking good, I'm just not sure how much of an advantage it holds over the .308.
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What is your intended purpose for the rifle , long range targets or animals (and what would your max range be) does it need to be carried far, will it be fired much (eg target days etc or strictly a hunting rifle)? Be able to be a bit more objective in your choices if you look at its purpose (or you can just buy for the cool factor:thumbsup:)
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Savage1
Yeah I was kinda thinking it was a hell of a jump. 300 win mag is looking good, I'm just not sure how much of an advantage it holds over the .308.
About 4-500.fps in 150's a fair bloody advantage
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This is a cool vid from a guy on the other forum.
300win with 168amaxs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CrPe...yer_detailpage
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horihunter
What is your intended purpose for the rifle , long range targets or animals (and what would your max range be) does it need to be carried far, will it be fired much (eg target days etc or strictly a hunting rifle)? Be able to be a bit more objective in your choices if you look at its purpose (or you can just buy for the cool factor:thumbsup:)
Not a target rifle, that is what my .308 is mainly used for. I would like it mainly for hunting but would prefer a heavy barrel as I would use it in F class on occasion, I don't mind carrying a bit of weight around when hunting. I would like to take animals at 1000m+. Is the .300 Win Mag capable of this realistically?
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Also, how would the 7mm practical compare to a .300 Win Mag?
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Yes it is. But if 1000 is your goal from the start. Then fhe 338 is your choice.
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Also, how would the 7mm practical compare to a .300 Win Mag?
Like.a.7mm08 to a 308. Same case lighter higher bc pills going faster.
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Savage1
Not a target rifle, that is what my .308 is mainly used for. I would like it mainly for hunting but would prefer a heavy barrel as I would use it in F class on occasion, I don't mind carrying a bit of weight around when hunting.
Pretty sure F-Class has an 8mm caliber restriction so i think you will find you won't be allowed a .338. Also a hunting weight .338 will almost certainly have a muzzle break i.e. another bit of kit i don't think you will be allowed to use in F-Class.
Comfortably carrying a long range rifle round hunting is pretty dependant on the ballance of the rifle. I have a 10lb .260Rem with most of that weight in the barrel/suppressor that i carry hunting but it is not the most comfortable thing to carry. In comparision i have a 10lb .375H&H that is much much nicer to carry.
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The Desert Tactical Arms bullpup looks interesting. The SRS small chassis is multi caliber so switching from say a 260 rem to 338 LM is a 2 minute job. One scope and one trigger. Not everyone's cup of tea, but an interesting idea.
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.338 Lapua Magnum questions
DTA want you to buy through the Au agent at about double US price. Told them they were dreaming if anyone would buy one from them. Year later approached them again, same answer. Asked how many they had sold in Au -3 was the reply haha
At US prices I would have brought 3 myself as had another guy basically presold.
Will just buy one from US off shelf when I'm ready I think
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I am looking into a 338 Edge the brass is about 1/2 the price of the Lapua magnum
All you need to do is put the 300 RUM brass threw a 338 Edge sizing die and there you have your brass
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Or keep it 300 RUM and run the 230gr hybrid and you will be able to shoot targets in most places as well, a few ban the 338's
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If weighing up the cost difference in brass is a focal point, then the big cals arnt for you.
Powder and pills are 2-3x as much as 308 runs
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I'll take the good, available factory rifles in .338lm and no custom bullshit, brass forming etc thanks
DTA are really nice (I know a guy who must be one of the 3 in Au) but incredibly overpriced from Cleaver. Horrible store.
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Yeah I was meaning if I had a .300 Win Mag I would use it on occasion in F class, .338 would not be welcomed by many at the NRA so I would only use it for shooting steel and long range hunting. I shoot large amounts of .308 in varying wind conditions so I am not a complete muppet but I do know the limitations of it.
I must agree, fire forming brass for custom chamberings does not really interest me. I can't really see any great advantage of the Edge over the LM but I haven't looked to hard.
I like the idea of buying one off the shelf, but would rather buy someones custom built :) Might just wait till a good deal comes up.
Any other caliber recommendations? I'm still thinking .338 LM may be a bit big for me.
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7rem mag, 7saum i know one thats coming up for sale soon also? with few go fast bits on it forum member also:).....not me
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Savage 1 , I have recently purchased a new savage 110 fcp in 338 lapua. It was good value at $2250 ,plus it has some awesome reviews .Cheers
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Got it new mate, through Phil at NZ Precision . It took a while to arrive but for the price nothing comes close.:)
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tui_man2
7rem mag, 7saum i know one thats coming up for sale soon also? with few go fast bits on it forum member also:).....not me
Enjoying a 16 inch barreled 7mmsaum a lot these days, 3000fps with a 140 grainer and no problem busting targets out to 1000yrds with it. My 20 inch 7mm08 pushes the 140s at 2900 so the saum is an improvement there.
Petree had no problem with first round hits on rocks at 480yrds, his first ever shots with this rifle.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...m/DSCF3248.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...m/DSCF3251.jpg
On a bit of a wander we found a flax snail, its live owner inside, I have found plenty of shells in the past but never with a live inhabitant.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...m/DSCF3258.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...m/DSCF3252.jpg
At a heavier end of the scale I spent the weekend carrying my lightest 338Edge around and enjoyed the use of high BC projectiles making harvesting easier. The new Gen 2 Hybrid 300 grain Berger @ 2950fps works great on our thin skinned game and certainly irons out a few unforseen variables often encountered in hilly terrain.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...m/DSCF3311.jpg
But you DO need a decent Muzzle brake, thanks for that KiwiGreg, it works fantastic:thumbsup:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...m/DSCF3317.jpg
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2950 is fair stonking! Awesome!
What barrel length you using for 2950? And is that a factory sendero stock? Does it handle the extra weight (if any) ok?
Chris
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It was meant to be a 30 inch tube but I have not measured it to be honest, could be longer.
Its a standard SF2 stock, bedded with Brownells "Steel Bed". Its over 90% stainless powder and is incredibly strong, a dial indicator gauge shows no inaccuracies in the bedding, and so nice to shoot.
If I was only allowed ten rifles then this combo would have be one of them :D
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If I was only allowed ten rifles then this combo would have be one of them :D
Just one of the ten ??? ;)
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Come on Andrew, 2950fps with a 300gn out of a 30" barreled Edge is over the top. Keep it sensible for the benefit of those who don't know better and may get themselves into trouble trying to achieve that.
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Greg Duley
Come on Andrew, 2950fps with a 300gn out of a 30" barreled Edge is over the top. Keep it sensible for the benefit of those who don't know better and may get themselves into trouble trying to achieve that.
Shawn Carlocks conservative Data
Bullet: Sierra 300 gr. SMK
Case: Remington
Primer: Federal 215 Match
Powder: US869
Charge: 104.0
OAL: 3.785”
Velocity:2918
ES: 36 fps
As seen here 338 Edge Load Information
A local 30" Edge achieves similar safe velocities
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Yes KG, you can get close with 869 but this is not a recommended powder for the 338 Edge as its too slow. It gives too large ES's as Shawn says. With the best powders recommended for the 338 Edge like H1000/2217, you cannot safely get 2950fps.
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Greg Duley
Yes KG, you can get close with 869 but this is not a recommended powder for the 338 Edge as its too slow. It gives too large ES's as Shawn says. With the best powders recommended for the 338 Edge like H1000/2217, you cannot safely get 2950fps.
The local Edge was using 2217 inside the usual weights around 2930 fps from memory over the 35P
It has recently been sold, it was another members not mine, used my reamer though.
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.338 Lapua Magnum questions
Over the top how Duley? Based on your 'pressure gear' or the fact you can't get those speeds and many others can?
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YEAP ,
The DTA SRS is interesting , when it was 3k USD for a complete rifle , and they would sell straight to you in NZ , as I had a dealers price list from them when they where 1st released .
BUT when I looked at getting one a few yrs back , got told , NO go see our Aussie rep , wasn't that interested in buying from Cleavers , as the price was thru the roof , I did however have a play with one in the shop in Brisbane .
I am of the opinion they are at a simialr price to an AI rifle IF you buy from the Aussie's , and at that price point I put my money with AI , as nice & different as they are , AIs I feel are better .
IF any ones going to buy one in the US , I would advise they make sure they get the Gen II version , as thats the current upgraded model , and uses different barrel extensions etc , and it usually has a ball bolt knob instead of the Gen I s tear drop one .
Later Chris
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Greg Duley knows his stuff backwards and his point is very valid .Some inexperience person reading this could just blow the crap outta their action and face .
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el borracho
Greg Duley knows his stuff backwards and his point is very valid .Some inexperience person reading this could just blow the crap outta their action and face .
Few weeks ago he was telling people to keep adding powder til they got to the velocity from the book...
Salt.....
Pinch.....
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Load for that in winter and shoot on hot summers day with a poor design action,case with less volume than others-there are variables to consider that a green horn may not appreciate.Greg Duley test many loads also and does have an inkling I would suggest
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but that is his point-stout loads s seen on the net may lead to the unawares new re loader to cause damage to themselves .I took his words as cautionary not final